Later Raids and Enslavement of Turkic Groups Since 650 BC
Important Update Notice on 24 July 2018: I have updated my Abyssinian Hypothesis after discovering the that single-hump camel (The dromedary) was unknown in Arabia, Aram, Assyria, and Kemet before 950 BC, while in abundance in the land of Punt.
This led to make the following major changes:
1- The proposed origin of Israelite from being Arabic-speaking Arab Yemenis to Ge’ez-speaking African Puntite;
2- Rename the Abyssinian Hypothesis to the Ge’ez Puntite Hypothesis;
3- The Turkic Mongolian colonizers and rulers of Neo-Babylonia invited elders from the House of Israel to Babylonia in around 580 BC in what is called the Babylonian Exile to help the create Judaism and colonize Aramaic land in 530 BC;
4- The Hebrew Language and the Hebrew Israelite are products of admixture between Ge’ez Israelite, Turkic Mongolian Persians, and colonized Aramaic. They existed only after 530 C; and
5- The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel are those Israelite who left the land of Punt and decided to collaborate with Turkic Mongolians to invent Judaism and colonize Aramaic lands; and turned into Hebrew Israelite.
For more details on the Ge’ez Puntite Hypothesis read the following three articles:
1- How Persians Cooked a Cult and Called it Judaism Part 1
2- The Turkic Mongolian-African Israelite Joint-ventures
3- Jesus Pointing to “The Lost Sheep of the house of Israel” and “the Gentiles”
[End of notice]
Researchers say the DNA of Yiddish speakers may have originated from four ancient villages in north-eastern Turkey. They also proved that Yiddish is not “bad German”, but it is a Turkic language mixed with Hebrew, German, Persian, and East European.
It can be stated with confidence that the Jews of northern and eastern Europe – normally known as Ashkenazim Jews – are the descendants of earlier Turkic raiders mixed with enslaved natives from the regions all around the Black Sea from Volga-Don rivers to Anatolia, Balkan, and Thracia in 650 BC.
At that time they were pagan Tengeri. Judaism (Talmudic Pharisees) was not yet invented as it began to form since 530 BC and continued till 220 AD. But, Moses’ faith (the written Hebrew Scriptures) existed before that time by about 550 years, since 1200 BC.
The Turkic raiders and colonizers of eastern Europe were not called Jews by that time. Ashkenazi Jews became organized Jews in a political group only after 650 AD when they received members form other Turkic groups who came from Arabia, Levant, Mesopotamia, and Persia with the start of wars with Arabs in those regions.
All of the new comers to the Turkified eastern Europe were politically Jews, as they were established in Judea and Samaria by the Turkic Persians. They were ethnically Turkic Mongolians, and religiously followed Judaism (Talmudic Pharisees) to rule over the Hebrew Sadducees and Israelite.
The combined Turkic groups worked together both from within and from the outside Arabia and Levant to stop and influence Islam and finally to control it.
Genetics and linguistic research proved that Turkish villages –Iskenaz, Eskenaz, Ashanaz, and Ashkuz were part of the original Ashkenazic homeland. It is believed that the word Ashkenaz originally comes from Ashguza – the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian name for the Iron Age Eurasian steppeland people, the Scythians.
Unfortunately, geographical name changes in Turkey have been undertaken, periodically, in bulk from 1913 to the present by successive Turkish governments. Thousands of names within the Turkish Republic or the Ottoman Empire have lost or departed from their popular or historic alternatives.
The governments have argued that such names are foreign and/or divisive against Turkish unity. The policy commenced during the final years of the Ottoman Empire and continued into the Turkish Republic. Approximately 28,000 topographic names were changed, which included 12,211 village and town names and 4,000 mountain, river, and other topographic names. The name İşkenaz was changed to Skena and many other name changes were enforced.
Geographical name changes in Turkey
List of renamed cities, towns and regions in Turkey
Here are four published articles describe the findings of a research and contradicts earlier theories that Yiddish is an old German dialect or of any European origin. The study, titled “Localizing Ashkenazic Jews to primeval villages in the ancient Iranian lands of Ashkenaz” was conducted by researchers from three universities in the U.K., U.S., and Israel. It was published in the journal Genome Biology and Evolution.
Important Notice: The four articles, for unclear reasons, try to justify the Turkic presence in the region with trade along the Silk Road, while ignoring the raiding, colonization, and enslavement of Western Asia, Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, the Balkan, and Anatolia.
The creation of the Slavic group, the mass migration and invasions of the Sea people, and the simultaneous collapse of several great civilizations that occurred in 1177 BC all might be linked to earlier Turkic raids.
Ashkenazi Jews, as well as the Yiddish language, came from four villages in Turkey: study
By: Zoe Demarco | April 20, 2016 | Last Updated: Apr 21, National Post
The Cathedral of Ani in the Armenian city of the same name in eastern Turkey. New research has claimed the Yiddish language likely originated in four villages in this area, rather than in Germany as previously thought
Credit: Dominic Dudley/Pacific Press/LightRocket via Getty Images
In an effort to discover the origin of the Yiddish language, researchers say that they have found evidence that proves that Ashkenazi Jews are descended predominately from four villages in northeastern Turkey.
The study, titled “Localizing Ashkenazic Jews to primeval villages in the ancient Iranian lands of Ashkenaz” was conducted by researchers from three universities in the U.K., U.S., and Israel. It was published in the journal Genome Biology and Evolution.
Using a Geographic Population Structure device, Dr Eran Elhaik, a geneticist from the University of Sheffield who led the study, was able to convert the DNA of Ashkenazi Jews into geographic coordinates.
The data showed that 90 percent of Ashkenazi Jews have links to the ancient villages of Iskenaz, Eskenaz, Ashanaz, and Ashkuz that sit near ancient Silk Road trade routes.
“We traced nearly all AJs to major primeval trade routes in northeastern Turkey adjacent to primeval villages, whose names may be derived from ‘Ashkenaz.’ We conclude that AJs probably originated during the first millennium when Iranian Jews Judaized Greco-Roman, Turk, Iranian, southern Caucasus, and Slavic populations inhabiting the lands of Ashkenaz in Turkey,” the researchers wrote.
They say this is evidence that Yiddish is a Slavic language that was created by Irano-Turko-Slavic Jewish merchants, and is not of German origin as is commonly thought.
They suggest that it was devised as a “cryptic trade language,” and was used to gain its creators an advantage in trades along the Silk Roads.
“Language, geography and genetics are all connected,” Dr Eran Elhaik told phys.org.
Today, half the world’s 10 million – 11.2 million Ashkenazi Jews live in the United States, with another 2.8 million residing in Israel. They make up approximately 75 per cent of Jews, while Sephardi Jews comprising the remaining 25 per cent.
Scientists reveal Jewish history’s forgotten Turkish roots
By: David Keys Archaeology Correspondent, Tuesday 19 April 2016, Independent.co.uk
A group of Ashkenazic Jews in Jerusalem, circa 1885 Getty Images
Israeli-born geneticist believes the Turkish villages of Iskenaz, Eskenaz and Ashanaz were part of the original homeland for Ashkenazic Jews
New research suggests that the majority of the world’s modern Jewish population is descended mainly from people from ancient Turkey, rather than predominantly from elsewhere in the Middle East.
The new research suggests that most of the Jewish population of northern and eastern Europe – normally known as Ashkenazic Jews – are the descendants of Greeks, Iranians and others who colonized what is now northern Turkey more than 2000 years ago and were then converted to Judaism, probably in the first few centuries AD by Jews from Persia. At that stage, the Persian Empire was home to the world’s largest Jewish communities.
According to research carried out by the geneticist, Dr Eran Elhaik of the University of Sheffield, over 90 per cent of Ashkenazic ancestors come from that converted partially Greek-originating ancient community in north-east Turkey.
His research is based on genetic, historical and place-name evidence. For his geographic genetic research, Dr Elhaik used a Geographic Population Structure computer modelling system to convert Ashkenazic Jewish DNA data into geographical information.
Dr Elhaik, an Israeli-born geneticist who gained his doctorate in molecular evolution from the University of Houston, believes that three still-surviving Turkish villages – Iskenaz, Eskenaz and Ashanaz – on the western part of an ancient Silk Road route were part of the original Ashkenazic homeland. He believes that the word Ashkenaz originally comes from Ashguza – the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian name for the Iron Age Eurasian steppeland people, the Scythians.
Referring to the names of the three Turkish villages, Dr Elhaik points out that “north-east Turkey is the only place in the world where these place-names exist”.
From the 690s AD onwards, anti-Jewish persecution by the Christian Byzantine Empire seems to have played a part in forcing large numbers of Jews to flee across the Black Sea to a more friendly state – the Turkic-ruled Khazar Empire with its large Slav and other populations.
Some analyses of Yiddish suggests that it was originally a Slavic language, and Dr Elhaik and others believe that it was developed, probably in the 8th and 9th centuries AD, by Jewish merchants trading along some of the more northerly Silk Roads linking China and Europe.
By the 730s, the Khazar Empire had begun to convert to Judaism – and more people converted to the faith.
But when the Khazar Empire declined in or around the 11th century, some of the Jewish population almost certainly migrated west into Central Europe. There, as Yiddish-speaking Jewish merchants came into contact with central European, often German-speaking, peoples, they began to replace the Slav words in Yiddish with large numbers of German and German-derived words, while retaining some of its Slav-originating grammar. Many Hebrew words also appear to have been added by that stage.
The genetic modelling used in the research was based on DNA data from 367 Jews of northern and eastern European origin and more than 600 non-Jewish people mainly from Europe and western Asia.
Dr Elhaik says it is the largest genomic study ever carried out on Ashkenazic Jews. His research will be published in the UK-based scientific journal, Genome Biology and Evolution.
Further research is planned to try to measure the precise size of the Semitic genetic input into Jewish and non-Jewish genomes.
Yiddish may have originated in Turkey, not Germany
By: Matt Burgess, Wednesday 20 April 2016, Wired.co.uk
The Cathedral of Ani in the Armenian city of the same name in eastern Turkey. New research has claimed the Yiddish language likely originated in four villages in this area, rather than in Germany as previously thought
The origins of the Yiddish language have been traced to north-eastern Turkey, according to results from a DNA analysis tool.
By analysing the genetics of Yiddish and non-Yiddish speakers, researchers from the University of Sheffield were able to calculate that the language originated from four villages in north-eastern Turkey. Established theory had suggested Yiddish was first spoken in Germany. “We identified 367 people who claim they have two parents who are Ashkenazic Jews and we divided them into people whose parents only speak Yiddish and then everyone else,” Eran Elhaik, the leader of the research, told WIRED.
Using a Geographic Population Structure (GPS, not to be confused with the global positioning system used by sat-navs), the team found that Iranian and Ashkenazic Jews likely invented the language as they traded on the Silk Road. The language is thought to have been invented by Jewish traders who didn’t want others to understand what they were saying.
The four villages – named Iskenaz, Eskenaz, Ashanaz, and Ashkuz – all derive from the word ‘Ashkenaz’, which is the root of the word ‘Ashkenazic’. According to Elhaik, north-east Turkey is the only place where the four place names exist.
Elhaik said the link between the places and Ashkenaz indicated where the the language could have existed 1,500 years ago. He continued to say that the results were initially “surprising” as the area does not have a “rich history of Jews”.
The latest research, which has been published in the journal Genome Biology, contradicts earlier theories that Yiddish is an old German dialect. “We conclude that AJs [Ashkenazic Jews] probably originated during the first millennium when Iranian Jews Judaized Greco-Roman, Turk, Iranian, southern Caucasus, and Slavic populations inhabiting the lands of Ashkenaz in Turkey,” the research paper concludes. “Our findings imply that Yiddish was created by Slavo-Iranian Jewish merchants plying the Silk Roads between Germany, North Africa, and China.”
The tool works by triangulating geographic coordinates to find out where DNA was forged and which gene pools came together to create a person.
. The system then converts genetic distances, between unknown and known DNAs, into geographic one and “puts the new unknown DNA between populations of known geographic origins.”
For most Europeans, the tool can analyse population data for around 1,000 years. But Elhaik is now working on a new system that can work with much older data. “We’re probably going to do a really good job for 2,000 to 10,000 years ago due to the availability of the DNA from these time periods,” he said.
Updated 20/04/16, 20:50: This article has been updated to reflect an incorrect external link describing GPS.
By: Sarah Griffiths for MailOnline, 20 April 2016, Dailymail.co.uk
- Yiddish was thought to have originally been an old German dialect
- A new genetic study, however, has pinpointed origin of Yiddish speakers
- Suggests it was invented by Iranian and Ashkenazic Jews on the Silk Road
Researchers say the DNA of Yiddish speakers may have originated from four ancient villages in north-eastern Turkey.
It may have been spoken for 1,000 years, but the origins of Yiddish – the language of Ashkenazic Jews – has been a bone of contention between linguists for years.
Now researchers say the DNA of Yiddish speakers may have originated from four ancient villages in north-eastern Turkey.
And they believe the Yiddish language was invented by Iranian and Ashkenazic Jews as they traded on the Silk Road, challenging the popular idea it is an old German dialect.
Scientists at the Universities of Sheffield and Tel Aviv used a tool dubbed the Geographic Population Structure (GPS) to convert DNA data into ancestral coordinates.
This enabled them to identify the ancient villages – Iskenaz, Eskenaz, Ashanaz, and Ashkuz – close to the crossroads of the Silk Roads, which were a historically important international trade route between China and the Mediterranean.
They believe the villages names derive from the word ‘Ashkenaz’ and may have existed as long as 1,500 years ago.
Dr Eran Elhaik from Sheffield University’s Department of Animal and Plant Sciences, said: ‘Language, geography and genetics are all connected.
‘Using the GPS tool to analyse the DNA of sole Yiddish and non-Yiddish speakers, we were able to predict the possible ancestral location where Yiddish originated over 1,000 years ago – a question which linguists have debated over for many years.’
‘North east Turkey is the only place in the world where these place names exist – which strongly implies that Yiddish was established around the first millennium at a time when Jewish traders who were plying the Silk Road moved goods from Asia to Europe wanted to keep their monopoly on trade.
‘They did this by inventing Yiddish – a secret language that very few can speak or understand other than Jews.
‘Our findings are in agreement with an alternative theory that suggests Yiddish has Iranian, Turkish, and Slavic origins and explains why Yiddish contains 251 words for the terms “buy” and “sell”.
‘This is what we can expect from a language of experienced merchants.’
Yiddish, which incorporates German, Slavic and Hebrew, and is written in Aramaic letters, is commonly thought to be an old German dialect.
However, an alternative theory proposed by Professor Paul Wexler from the University of Tel Aviv, who is also an author on the study, suggests that Yiddish is a Slavic language that used to have both Slavic grammar and words but in time shed its Slavic lexicon and replaced it with common and unfamiliar German words.
The findings of the study, published in the journal Genome Biology and Evolution, led researchers to believe that towards the end of the first millennium, Ashkenazic Jews may have relocated to Khazaria before moving into Europe half a millennium later after the fall of the Khazarian Empire.
This was a time when the international trading networks collapsed.
As Yiddish became the primary language of Ashkenazic Jews, the language began to acquire new words from other cultures while retaining its Slavic grammar.
Dr Elhaik said: ‘Yiddish is such a wonderful and complex language, which was inappropriately called ‘bad German’ by both its native and non-native speakers because the language consists of made-up German words and a non-German grammar.
‘Yiddish is truly a combination of familiar and adapted German words using Slavic grammar.
‘In a sense the language uses the same premise as Yoda from the Star Wars movies.
‘For example, Yoda’s language consists of common and made-up English words like ‘Wookie’ or ‘Jedi’ but the grammar is different – the words are used in a different order to what we are familiar with.’
He added: ‘Utilising the GPS ancestry technology and applying it to the DNA of sole Yiddish speakers and non-Yiddish speakers allowed us to find the ancestral origins of their DNA.
‘The GPS tool indicates where ancient Ashkenaz could have existed over 1,500 years ago.’
Professor Wexler, added: ‘The linguistic data used are from Yiddish, which we assume was invented in Western Asia as a Slavic language with a largely German-like lexicon and a significant Iranian component on all levels of the language.
‘The genetic data presented here appear to corroborate the linguistic hypothesis.’
WHAT IS YIDDISH?
Yiddish is the language of the Ashkenazia Jews (and their descendants) of Central and Eastern Europe. It literally means Jewish, according to JewFaq.
The language is a hybrid of Hebrew, and other languages where the Ashkenazic Jews have lived, including Germany. It has an unmusical grammatical structure of its own and is written in an alphabet based on Hebrew characters.
Just one century ago it was understood by 11 million of the world’s 18 million Jews, many of who spoke it as their first language. Now, far fewer people use it.
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Comments on: "Jewishness is a Political Organization for Turkic Mongolians" (22)
Yet when I point out to Christian Zionists that Yiddish is a proof of the Khazar origin of the Ashkenazem, they quote me Wikipedia misinformation that Yiddish is a medieval German related language.
Christian Zionists and “end times” Christians give Christianity a bad name, sorry to say. (Christianity has been in Ethiopia since the 3rd century AD.)
Christian Zionists are actually Turkified Christian. They are the same as the Turkified Islam and Turkified religion of Moses (unfortunately the world has no longer a name for the great religion of Moses! The Jews erased human memory and implanted into our minds that Judaism is the religion of Moses, which is completely untrue).
Judeo-christianity is a fake religion and it is a corrupt institutional cult.
Christianity in Ethiopia existed from the early 1th century. What makes Ethiopian Christianity very especial is that it is free, national, and untouched by the Turkic and corrupted Greeks and Romans.
It is in much better state than the Churches of Egypt, Syria, Armenia, Greece, Russia, and of course than the Roman ridiculous cult.
Other Christians in the world are not following their local religions nor Jesus, they are just contented to believe they are Christian someway.
A Christian must integrate the teachings of Jesus into his/her local culture and not let life be a dishonest market.
I take some offense about your characterization of Roman Catholicism, But, I won’t hate you for it, Tariq. You are correct about Christianity in Ethiopia.
Yes, Christians have to live their faith out in their daily lives and not restrict their religious practice to an hour or two each week in worship and fellowship. As Nietzsche noted in the late 1800s, most Christians live the same as pagans do.
larryzb: The known and hidden history and present of Christianity in Rome are really shocking and far from faithful. This is a very long story and it surprises me that the world is not aware of it.
Some easy honest research could reveal too much.
Even without efforts people can judge from its performance, trust, and popularity.
Thanks for your kindness.
Mr Tarig, i am new to your blog and find your articles interesting. I notice you mentioned ‘turkic mongolians’ multiple times in multiple articles. So i am curious, would you agree that majority of the jewish leaders in the various fields, and leaders of zionism are descendants of turkic and mongolian people?
Also to my follow up question. If your answer is ‘yes’ to the questions, what evidence i.e genetic evidence do you have to back the claim? If most jewish people are indeed descendants of turkic khazarians and mongolians, their dna tests would show it. Last i check, the y-dna haplogroup Q is only 5% of the overall khazarian jews population. And there’s no indication of y-dna haplogroup C, which is predominant in mongolians.
Forget about DNA, academia, media, and religious establishments they failed to answer the most basic questions about all the tales of the Hebrew Bible.
I am say they are descendants of Turkic Mongolians since 530 BC (but the Turkic raids, enslavement, bastardization of many Asians and Eastern Europeans began from 1800 BC). This is very long before the Khazars of 660 AD.
The outcome of Turkic Mongolian brutal slavery of these nations destroyed any genetic pattern that is why I emphasize that Jewishness is not ethnic or religious affiliation, but rather political and cultural. They confess these changes took place.
If you take the words of a couple of angry Turkic Turks saying how they are of different appearances, genes, religions, and nationalities but still consider themselves the only “master race” you can check these articles, don’t take them for their face value but just consider the arguments and the provided information, they are undeniable.
https://tariganter.wordpress.com/2017/03/16/a-turk-bragging-that-europeans-world-were-turkic-slaves/
https://tariganter.wordpress.com/2017/04/17/another-example-of-turkic-jewish-confession-of-antisemitism
DNA researches, the same as linguistic grouping and archeology, are still in their infancy, heavily politicized, and just businesses. They look like Science but they are not scientific or even logical at all.
Until the world liberate its scientific tools history revisionism shall rely on common sense and logic only.
The main points of my answer are:
1- The genetic pool of Turkic Mongolians had changed completely during the last 3800 years due to their extensive and wide raiding, enslavement, and breeding, starting from Scythia, Iran, Levant, Caucasus, Asia Minor, Balkan, and Eastern Europe.
2- The tales of the Hebrew Bible were made out of thin air and were, and still are, unsupported by any science, including DNA, archeology, and others.
3- The burden of proof of the historicity of the Hebrew Bible must be solely on the Israelite, Hebrew, and Jews. They failed to do so for 3400 years.
4- To find out any true history it is essential to investigate and interpret existing and new evidences in rigorous scientific methods without bias, then speculate and hypothesize logical narratives, then test them thoroughly. These processes were never applied to the current Biblical history.
5- Scientific methods must be tested and verified before using them or claim their reliability.
Yes Mr Tarig. I definitely agree with you 100%. Genetics and academia can be pretty biased and highly politicized. Even when reading up multiple sources, most of these sources do not agree with the other completely. Take this article from your blog for example :
https://tariganter.wordpress.com/2017/06/06/slavic-turkic-origins-of-the-ashkenazim-jews/
i get the vibe that Dr Eran Elhaik suggests Ashkenazi jews are descended from Southern Europeans. Whereas others put them from Africans to Eastern Europeans to Mongolians. Even today, many regular Mongolians vehemently deny that Mongolians have anything to do with Khazars. They wonder if we confused Hazaras with Khazars.
Thank you bobby for bring the issue of Persian Dari-speaking Hazaras, of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran, which I indeed link them with Khazars. Both Hazaras and Khazars are Turkic Mongolians.
It is widely and popularly believed that Hazara have Mongolian ancestry. Genetic analysis of the Hazara indicate partial Mongolian ancestry. Invading Mongols and Turco-Mongols mixed with the local Iranian population, forming this distinct group.
This example of population transformation occurred Scythia, Iran, Levant, Caucasus, Asia Minor, Balkan, and Eastern Europe resulting in creating many different groups with different languages, religions, features, and genetic composition. This also happened in many parts of Africa, particularly in the North.
But North Africa first received Yemeni Arab Israelite around 1700 BC, then came the expelled Hebrew from Canaan starting from 530 BC, and the last group was the Turkic Mongolians who dominated the region since 660 AD and then invaded and colonized Iberia (Al-Andalus) pretending to be Arabs and Muslims.
Regarding Dr Eran Elhaik suggestion, I hope you noticed my remark to correct his map by advising reversing the directions of two groups. The author’s map doesn’t make sense.
True. Makes a lot of sense. Mr Tarig i enjoy reading your blog. It has given me a lot of information i needed. Just one more question if i may.
What do you think of the Mizrahi Jews? They are also called (“Sons of the East”) or Oriental Jews. Many of their descendants hail from places with history of Mongolian invasions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews
Avi Shlaim who is also a Mizrahi Jew does have an Asian vibe.
Thanks, I am very pleased you enjoy it.
First let me show you a diagram showing the Jewish groups:
I guess the diagram is over-simplified, the Mizrahi Jews is not an accurate term, it is like saying “others”.
I would prefer to distinguish the Israelite and Hebrew from the Turkic Jews who never settled in any part of Arabia and the Levant. Therefore, The Mizrahi Jews is a composite category which includes ancient Israelite and Hebrew who are Arabs, plus more authentic Turkic people from the far East.
Another interesting information about the three Jewish groups is found at “stock-heil.deviantart”
http://stock-heil.deviantart.com/art/Jewish-Ethnic-Profiles-321101534
It says: [The three major racial Jewish types. Mizrahi (Middle Eastern), Ashkenazi (white) and Sephardi (Hispanic).
Yes, they are variations and this will not guarantee you’ll be able to tell a Mizrahi from a Sephardi.
But it’s the major differences, one may say.
Also, please don’t give me any “OMG you make Jews a race, you racist!” bullshit. First off, there is a reason why Jews are often identified or stereotyped with big noses and curly hair. Second, these are officially recognized categories.
Mizrahi
These are my favorite, though they also include Ethiopians and basically every Jewish person from the Middle East. The Mizrahi “sub-type” I find most attractive, is the “Arab”.
Ashkenazi
The whitey. Kyle from South Park would be one. Very variegated. And in Israel, often racist toward Mizrahi and Sephardis.
Sephardi
Often lumped in with Mizrahi, the latter being the one whose distinction is discarded and just renamed to Sephardi. Jews from Portugal, Spain, and other Hispanic/”Spanoid” Jews, including nowadays South-Americans. Basically a pale Mizrahi, when talkign about appearance.
Personally I think one can tell the difference between a non-black Mizrahi and a Sephardi best by looking at the features. The Mizrahi’s will normally be more “Arabic”, the hair thicker and curlier, more like an African’s. Also they tend to have a shitload of eye lashes, even the men, really beautiful. But they also tend to be shorter than Jewish races from the West such as Sephardi or Ashkenazi. This difference is especially notable in my clan where the Mizrahi members are way shorter than the Ashkenazi members. Also, Mizrahi still tend to be darker of skin than Sephardi, no matter how pale.
Why did I make this? Mostly for myself as a reference for future IDF drawings, but also because I hate how the Mizrahi type is being discriminated against and lumped in with the Sephardi. Portugal isn’t even geographically close to where us Mizrahis come from.
No guarantees for correctness.]
I think the Mizrahi Jews is two groups not one. And it is a deliberate political policy to deny the Israelite and Hebrew their own distinct group.
Aimaq people is apparently another ethnic nomadic people in Afghanistan and Iran . They claim descent from mongols ( Hazara ), Kipchaks, but also from Tajik people. They have mostly J1, J2 and R1a with only 15% C3 and surprisingly 20% haplogroup L which is a marker related with South Indian and even 17% H-M82 which is a marker related with Gypsies.
They look a freaking mixture of Mongol, South Asian, Gypsies, Iranians, Tajiks, Pasthun.
Most look either Gypsies, Iranians or mix inbetween only some look Mongol mixed in between.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?105042-Gypsy-Mongols-Aimaq-(-Hazara-Tajiks-)
Hi Mr Tarig, thank you for your detailed reply. I am just curious by this :
‘and the last group was the Turkic Mongolians who dominated the region since 660 AD and then invaded and colonized Iberia (Al-Andalus) pretending to be Arabs and Muslims.’
Do you have any proof of it? Because i cant seem to find any supporting studies. All i am getting are the invaders were Berbers. Didn’t know about the Aimaq people, only know more about the Hazaras. And i know many Afghanistan refugees in Sweden are Hazaras.
Don’t mind if i link you to another article on your blog since you mentioned R1a component from the Aimaq people.
https://tariganter.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/eurasian-y-chromosome-r1b-in-africa/
Are you suggesting light skinned Fulani people were formed by invading Turkic tribes (R1a)? Because i am not sure if it is possible from a geographical standpoint. Please pardon my ignorance. I believe the origins of R1a & R1b is Central Asian / Siberia Turkic in origin. Because the R1a & R1b in Central Asian Turks predate Europeaans, so R1 cannnot possibly be White European in origin. Also the ‘cousin’ Haplogroup of R is Q, which is generally also found in Turkic groups and Mongoloid Native Americans. Could the invading ‘Indo-European’ tribes into Europe actually Steppe Turkic tribes in origin?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%27ta–Buret%27_culture
”Physical anthropology [edit]
While the skeletal remains of MA-1 have been described as phenotypially East Asian (“Mongolid”), subsequent research has questioned this description. Alexeev (1998, p. 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was “inhabited by a population of Mongolid appearance”. [6] Genomic study Raghavan et al. (2014) and Fu et al. (2016) found Mal’ta Buret had brown eyes, dark hair and dark skin.[1][7]”
The elite and military in early Muslim states in all North Africa were Turkic, Arabs were very few. Actually, Islam was killed 50 after birth in a great civil war which put Turkic people in power, and molded Islam to become a Turkic cult with many sects and branches.
The Amazighen (Berber) were in contact with the first Israelite who came from Ethiopia and Sudan around 1700 BC, then the Berber and Israelite received the expelled Ten tribes of Hebrew after 530 BC.
But all these groups were defeated by Turkic raids since 660 AD. Then together they invaded Iberia and created Al-Andalus.
The history of power and wealth in Al-Andalus is very Jewish and you can find Jewish-Turkic coins and names of traders and officials. This is very easy to prove.
The Ottomans since 1299 had strong ties with Al-Andalus and during the Reconquista. After the Treaty of Granada of 1491 and expulsion they received Turkic Jews and Muslims and the formation of Sephardic Jewish identity started with that.
The Aimaq people are small sunni version of Hazaras found mostly throughout Pakistan in the Kyber and Balochistan region and in the West Central highlands of Afghanistan. Turkic Mongolians adopt many religions, sects and languages, even in Hindi.
I am sure that the light-complexion Fulani are mixed product of the older Israelite, Berber, Hebrew, and later strong component of Turkic, but not wholly Turkic.
Anthropology, linguistics, and genetics are not my interests and I recommend to avoid them for many good reasons.
Genetic similarities and changes cannot be accepted if there is no strong historical and archeological supporting evidences. If the Native Americans were 100% genetically similar to Turkic Mongolians but there are no records of invasions, wars, massacres, or conflicts it doesn’t infer any conclusion.
The West’s Darkest Hour blog has a number of articles under “Mongols” Category. They are very interesting.
https://chechar.wordpress.com/category/mongols/
Excerpts from “March of the Titans: A History of the White Race”, by Arthur Kemp is posted under “Other darkest hours” at https://chechar.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/other-darkest-hours/
The Punt Lands Hypothesis is very strong indeed, and will prove to be correct, and shall change world’s history and religious believes totally and very soon.
The Turkic peoples and Mongols only became prominent in the last 1000 years. When you are speaking of 500 BC, there were no Turkic peoples in that region. Southern Central Asia was inhabited by Slavic and Iranic peoples. Either you have a very poor grasp of history, or you enjoy cooking up false history…
All my articles are about the “Turkic Mongolians” who used horses in 1800 BC and NOT about “The Turkic peoples and Mongols”.
Uh, nothing is relevant now except
personal wealth and sex slaves.
All modern ‘faith’ and ‘religion’
(Other than non-existant 10 Commandment)
exists solely to perpetuate this
dominance